you will not find a person on earth that will take a major purebred herf  cow of this quality, and breed it to a crossbred bull---well we did and she had just what we hoped for----this steer is actually dam good-- no holes--he is a whale like his sister 701  and i don't me just kinda---he's big stout and fault free---foot that you could use to pack silage  -- right kind----    pic below is sire and grand dam